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		<title>Interview: David Houle, The Shift Age</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I posted a review of The Shift Age, by David Houle.  Since then, I had the good fortune of interviewing David about the book.
TCOB: David, your blog  Evolution Shift has become an increasingly popular site in the blogosphere  regarding a futurist’s look at where we’re headed.  Explain to the readers of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Last week I posted a <a href="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/2008/06/04/book-review-the-shift-age/" target="_blank">review of The Shift Age</a>, by <a href="http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/bio/" target="_blank">David Houle</a>.  Since then, I had the good fortune of interviewing David about the book.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB:</strong> David, your blog  <a href="http://www.evolutionshift.com/" target="_blank">Evolution Shift</a> has become an increasingly popular site in the blogosphere  regarding a futurist’s look at where we’re headed.  Explain to the readers of  The Corner Office blog what a futurist is.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David:</strong> Sure, my definition  of a futurist is what I do, which is to act as a catalyst to get people to think  about the future and then to facilitate the conversation about the future that  may result.  I explain this on my <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyysb8nqMQ&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">YouTube video</a>.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB:</strong><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> What prompted you to  write <a href="http://www.theshiftage.com/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Shift Age</span></a>?</span></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong> Three years ago I had a sense that what was happening around the world could no longer be described as the “Information Age”.  I then went back and touched base with the great thinkers who had affected my thinking as a young man and who had also been correct in their predictions about the last 30 years.  These great thinkers were Alvin Toffler, Marshall McLuhan, Buckminster Fuller, Peter S. Drucker and Arthur C. Clarke among others.  I then looked around and tried to see the new dynamics that their writings of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s did not predict.  This lead me to see the new view of our world and our future defined and reported in “The Shift Age”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/davidhoulepicture.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-813 alignleft" style="float: left; padding-right: 10px" title="davidhoulepicture" src="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/davidhoulepicture.jpg" alt="" width="103" height="113" /></a><strong>TCOB:</strong> The Shift  Age presents some interesting data showing the growth of technology, among other things, that are leading to a truly global society.  In these early discussions in the book, you frequently reference forces related to the “speed of change”.  The concept of “speed” and “change”, independently, is something everyone can grasp.  Do you think “speed <em><span style="font-style: italic;">of</span></em> change” is something most  people today understand and can relate to?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David:</strong> I think that everyone who reads these words has experienced some level of disorientation due to the speed of change.  In technology I call it “innovation fatigue”.  We learn how to use a computer and as soon as we do, another generation comes along.  We learn how to navigate a cell phone and then we have to learn how to use our smart phone.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">When I give speeches I touch on the fact that those of us alive now, and the generations represented by our parents and grandparents were the only generations that truly experienced the “speed of change” in a lifetime.  2,000 years ago, even 500 years ago, one could live an entire life in a village and live a life identical to ones parents.  The only change was seasonal.  Once the Industrial Age began some 300 years ago, the speed of change became noticeable.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">When my father was born in 1913, radio was just becoming a mass medium and most people traveled by train.  When he died in 1998 he was learning how to surf the Internet and had been flying on jet planes for decades.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>You mention in the book  that the <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHzGObVjLMU" target="_blank">Flow to Global</a> will reshape politics and economics.  Are there any  forces out there that would work <em><span style="font-style: italic;">against</span></em> the flow to  global?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>No, not really.   There are various groups of people that want to resist globalism and the Flow to  Global, but the direction has been set.   Of course, there is still some  geographical limitation where people live in relative isolation such as in the  Amazon rain forest and the high Himalayas, but  our electronic connectedness is unstoppable.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/shiftagecover.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-812 alignright" style="float: right;" title="Shift Age Book Cover" src="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/shiftagecover.jpg" alt="www.TheShiftAge.com" width="79" height="118" /></a></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">The Shift Age is  the global stage of humanity’s evolution as a species.  We have moved from  family to tribe to village to city to city state to nation state and now are  becoming global citizens.  The only remaining boundary is  planetary.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>Along those same lines,  what effects will the differences in religion among cultures play in a global  economy?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>That is a  very good question.  I think a lot about the future of religion.  I am not sure  as to the direction.  It is clear, when viewed over millennia, that religion has  declined in over all influence in the sense that it is no longer the sole source  of knowledge, belief and culture.  I think that the rise of the fundamentalist  arms of the old religions, say Islam and Christianity that have grown in the  past 20 years is due in part to a reaction to the explosion of choice in the  world and the accelerating rate of change.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">Sometimes the speed of change and  unlimited choice can naturally cause some people to look for easy answers as in  “I’ll do what the Koran says”  or “I’ll do what the Bible says”  or “I’ll do  what my guru says” It makes decisions easier in an increasingly complex,  confusing and ever faster paced world.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>Advancement in  technology is one of the most interesting topics you discuss in the book, and  necessity is the mother of invention.  Is there a point though, where  technological development changes so fast that mankind’s own scientific success  or other outside influences actually work against us?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>This brings up the  fighter pilot metaphor.  About 15 years ago it became clear that the technology  that surrounds a fighter pilot in a billion dollar aircraft is faster than the  pilot.  The pilot therefore becomes the slowest part of the package.  I think  that one healthy way of looking at technology is that it is all tools to help us  live richer, more productive lives.  Unfortunately too many people become slaves  to technology.  Just because the cell phone rings or the Blackberry vibrates  doesn’t mean that one must respond.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">The other concern  that I warn about is the unintended consequence issue.  DDT allowed for a  dramatic increase in agricultural productivity yet, through, Rachel Carson’s  book ‘The Silent Spring” in 1962 launched the environmental movement.  With the  arrival of nanotechnology, what might the unintended consequences be when  producing and disposing of such new micro agents?</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>In the book, you break  out the advancement of cell phones, the internet, and personal computers in what  you call the Flow to Global.  Based on those same advancements, is it logical to  think that the lines differentiating those three subjects is starting to get  fuzzy?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>Absolutely!  For  example the charts in the book about the growth of Internet usage are the  traditional ones based upon connecting through computers.  As the percentage of  cell phones that are smart phones increase, the number of Internet users  increase exponentially as there are about 2.5 times more cell phone users that  Internet users.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">The key point to make here is  that we are now at the stage where 50% of the world’s population can connect  with each other without regard for time  or distance.  That is something that has never existed before.  It is not just  about connecting with each other, it is actually creating a new environment.   Media is no longer something we watch or listen to, it is environmental.  We are  surrounded by media and connectivity.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>In both the blog and  the book, you talk about disintermediation, and later on how going digital has  changed the delivery of media.  Do you think the shift age is influencing career  choices of young people today who think they want to be a rock star, journalist,  or news anchor?  Has this concept filtered down to younger  generations?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>There is a group of  people I call the ‘digital natives’.  These are young people up to say the age  of 14 for whom digital connectivity is the only thing they have ever known. Ever  since they were young children they have been on the Internet.  Those between  the ages of 14 and say 28 are just a shade less native as many have had  computers, cable TV and video games all their lives.  These people act in and  look at the world differently.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">I am sure that there are young people that want  to be news anchors or journalists, but there will be thousands more that will  become bloggers or vloggers.  Being a success on YouTube is the new paradigm.   As for musicians, it can be argued that there has never been a better time to be  a band because you no longer need to rely or corporations to connect you to your  audience.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>Disintermediation is a  visible force in the world today, and as you mention in the book, it’s forcing  corporate America to rethink how they market to  consumers.  Do you believe marketing agencies understand  disintermediation?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>Some do, most do  not.  The advertising business as it was defined in the 20<sup>th</sup> century  is dead.  It is not yet clear what the ‘post-advertising’ world will look like.   I think the answer, as I have written in the book, is “high-touch media”.   Essentially this means that advertisers must connect with consumers at the  highest level be it emotional, intellectual, psychological or ego identity.   Reaching consumers via mass is a broken model.  Marketing agencies basically  understand that, but are not clear exactly how to replace this broken  model.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>What influenced your  decision to publish a hardcopy book, versus an e-book?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>E-books  represent less than 1% of the market.  That being said I am in the process of  having my manuscript become Kindle compatible.  I think the Kindle is the game  changer, the iPod of books.  Within the next 10 years e-books will represent  25-40% of the book market.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>I understand The Shift  Age is a precursor to another book you have planned, Evolution Shift.  Can you  give us a sneak peak into <em><span style="font-style: italic;">Evolution  Shift</span></em>?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>The Shift  Age defines the new age we are entering and also has front line reporting of the  early stages of this new age.  Evolution Shift will be about the possible  transformation or humanity that might take place in the next 15 years.  It will  also put forth the premise that we are at the fork in the road.  One road leads  to transformation, the other to destruction and disaster.</p>
<p><strong>TCOB: </strong>Finally, the push for  24/7 operation across the worlds time zones is stretching the internal clock  thin. I’m seeing it first hand: the desire to do more with less in half the  time.  Is there any chance we’ll slow down?</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David: </strong>None.  I get asked  this question or variation of it all the time.  The speed of technology has  accelerated faster than  human physiology, so what can we do?  The digital  natives seem to handle it better than we do.  I think the only prescription is  to remember that there will always be more information than can be consumed,  that technology will always get faster, more powerful and smaller and that  therefore one must always be making choices as to what to focus on.  We have  unlimited choice so it is choosing, and the speed that we choose that will  determine who we become and whether we can hold on to sanity.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;">Just remember to  disconnect now and then.  The sense of freedom can be  euphoric!</p>
<p><strong>TCOB:</strong> Great!  Thanks for the interview, David, and good luck with the book.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.15in;"><strong>David:</strong> Thank you!<strong></strong></p>
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<p><strong>Additional Resources</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theshiftage.com/" target="_blank">The Shift Age Website</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.evolutionshift.com/" target="_blank">Evolution Shift Blog</a></p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/Evolutionshift" target="_blank">The Futurist Chanel</a> on YouTube</p>
<p>Buy <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1419681788?tag=thecorneroffi-20&amp;camp=14573&amp;creative=327641&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=1419681788&amp;adid=0J4FJX57JHBKH6Q662DF&amp;" target="_blank">The Shift Age</a></p>
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		<title>Interview: William Yeh, President, SogoInvest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Houle&#8217;s post on Sogo Invest and how they have cut commissions by eliminating the middle man sparked my interest, and I was fortunate enough to land an exclusive interview with Sogo Invest President, William Yeh.
My first reaction is that Mr. Yeh is very much in tune with what the every day investor wants in an online [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><img title="Sogo Invest Logo" alt="Sogo Invest Logo" src="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/SogoInvestLogo.jpg" align="left" />David Houle&#8217;s <a title="Disintermediation Post" href="http://www.evolutionshift.com/blog/2006/07/11/i-shake-a-hand-of-disintermediation" target="_blank">post on Sogo Invest</a> and how they have cut commissions by eliminating the middle man <a title="Sogo Invest TCOB Post" href="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/2006/07/11/sogoinvestinitialpost/" target="_blank">sparked my interest</a>, and I was fortunate enough to land an exclusive interview with Sogo Invest President, William Yeh.</p>
<p>My first reaction is that Mr. Yeh is very much in tune with what the every day investor wants in an online trading brokerage platform: low prices, ease of use and great service.</p>
<p>The following is a summarized transcript of our conversation:</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Mr. Yeh, you&#8217;ve got a solid background in the brokerage industry with the development of Genesis Securities, LLC and the Laser trading platform.  Tell me a little about the Laser platform.</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> My history is in trading futures, and I believe in utilizing automation and electronics to remove the human hands from trading, making the whole financial process as fluid as possible.  That&#8217;s why we created the Laser system.</p>
<p>We developed the Laser trading platform to interact directly with the markets, and in turn we eliminated the need to buy information from a third party.  We get all of our data directly from the NYSE and the NASDAQ.  We also clear our own trades, eliminating yet another third party.</p>
<p>The Laser system was developed for the professional trader, and it has retained a Platinum rating from the NASDAQ.  Other trading platforms such as E*Trade have a Silver rating.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> You&#8217;ve got great technology for the professional trader, and you trade between 2-4% of the daily volume on the NASDAQ.  What inspired you to develop Sogo Invest?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> We really developed Sogo Invest for the simple, every day trader. While the Laser system is used primarily for the professional trader, we are taking that technology and putting into Sogo Invest.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> How can Sogo Invest undercut the rest of the online brokerage markets in terms of commissions and fees?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> Since we buy our own data directly from the NASDAQ and the NYSE and we clear our own trades, we&#8217;ve eliminated many of our third party costs.  We pass these savings directly on to our customer.  We could raise our commissions to $10, $8, or $6, and enjoy a larger profit, but we want to pass these savings on to the customer to get more people to join us, and more importantly stay with us.</p>
<p>The large amount of volume we clear every day also helps keep costs down, based on the economy of scale.</p>
<p>Our price speaks loudly, but service is also key.</p>
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<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Does Sogo Invest have its own dedicated customer service team, or are you relying on Genesis for that support?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> Our customer service is well established with Genesis, but Sogo Invest does have it&#8217;s own dedicated customer service department. Our customer service staff will answer in four rings or less.</p>
<p>We have created online video tours of many of the processes and features, but you can always call us.  During the last few days since we took Sogo Invest public, the response has been overwhelming, but we didn&#8217;t overload our phones. I think this is mostly in part to keeping everything easy and providing good online video tours and support.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> What is your philosophy with Sogo Invest?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  I asked my self, &#8220;Why do I want to be part of the crowd? There will be another William Yeh that will come along and charge less than the other guy&#8221;.  It&#8217;s really all about adding value for the people, and the technology opens up frictionless trading.</p>
<p>I believe people should invest for the long term, taking advantage of dollar cost averaging and compounding from the markets.  The ability to invest in fractional shares provides added value to the customer, making it easier to invest what you can afford.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> When will IRA accounts and mutual funds be available?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  The majority of people are still interested in mutual funds because ETF&#8217;s are so new. We&#8217;ll offer mutual funds in the next couple of months, but IRA accounts will come first, within the next month or two, if not sooner.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Can investors open a margin account?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  You can open a margin account right now as a matter of fact.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> What about trading options?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> We&#8217;ll add the ability to trade options in a few months, but IRA accounts will come first.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Does Sogo Invest provide investors the ability to take advantage of Dividend Re-Investment Programs (DRIP&#8217;s)?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> That option is not in place yet, but it&#8217;s not out of the question.  We have the technology to make it happen, it&#8217;s just whether or not the people want it.  What ever makes it easier for the people.  If we get a response from the people that they want something, we have it and we&#8217;ll make it available immediately.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Does Sogo Invest have some of the higher end utilities like Level II quotes, real time charts, time and sales, etc?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  These utilities will be included in Sogo Invest, and we will not charge for them. I like to give away things for free, and since we developed and own the software, we&#8217;ll include it for free. We want to spoil the customer and win their business.  What ever the people want, we will provide it.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> I understand that customers can fund their account through automatic transfer, but can they transfer funds directly from another broker into Sogo Invest?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong> Absolutely.  You just fill out the form and we take care of the rest.</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Will Sogo Invest users have the ability to set stops: limit stops, trailing stops, etc?</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  We have stops, but they&#8217;re more for professional traders and I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s something the simple trader needs or wants. However, if the people want it, we have it.  It&#8217;s just whether they want it or not, but we have to keep it easy.</p>
<p>My mantra is that &#8220;it has to be so easy my mother can do it!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Grant:</strong> Well that about wraps up all my questions, thank you for your time and good luck with Sogo Invest!</p>
<p><strong>William:</strong>  Thank you, Grant, and call or email me any time with questions.</p>
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<p><strong>Additional Information:</strong></p>
<p>Sogo Invest <a title="Sogo Invest Website Link" href="http://www.sogoinvest.com" target="_blank">Website</a><br />
Genesis Securities <a title="Genesis Securities LLC Website" href="http://www.gndt.com/" target="_blank">Website</a><br />
Sogo Invest <a title="Sogo Invest Press Release PDF" href="http://www.TheCornerOfficeBlog.com/upload_files/SogoPressRelease.pdf" target="_blank">Press Release</a> (pdf)<br />
Wall Street <a title="Sogo Invest WSJ Article" href="http://www.thecornerofficeblog.com/upload_files/Sogo_Launch.pdf" target="_blank">Journal Article</a>  (pdf)<br />
CNN Money <a title="CNN  Money Article" href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/11/markets/online_stocks/index.htm" target="_blank">Article</a><br />
Sogo Invest <a title="Sogo Invest Comparison" href="http://www.sogoinvest.com/sogo/home/compareus.aspx" target="_blank">Comparison</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have more thoughts on Sogo Invest and how they stand up to the rest of the online brokerage market in future posts.</p>
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