Mama’s don’t let your babies grow up to be… plumbers.

January 10th, 2008 by Grant in: Rental Property
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So I made the handyman trip to my rental unit last evening after the tenant called and told me that the washer was spewing water all over the place.

A few things crossed my mind when she described what was happening:

  1. The outflow tubing came out of the drain fitting and when the spin cycle started the water ended up on the floor instead of in the drain.
  2. The outflow tubing disconnected itself from the pump.
  3. The drain backed up and when the washer tried to pump all that water down the drain, it back flowed out the pipe.
  4. The water pump case cracked and is leaking from inside the washer.

Any one of the above I could have taken care of myself.

Unfortunately, none of those scenarios existed. At least not entirely.

pipingAfter I arrived, I fired up the old Whirlpool about half way with water, and then put it right into the spin cycle. I can hear the water being sent down the pipe, and then I start to notice something.

Water is seeping in through the foundation wall right where the drain pipe goes through the concrete floor.

Evidently the drain pipe (that’s been buried in the concrete floor, has become partially blocked to the point where the high flow rate from the spin cycle pressurizes the pipe, and the water then makes its way either through a hole in the pipe or a broken fitting.

Regardless, the washer isn’t broken. It’s much worse then that.

I attempted to snake the line to try and relieve the clog, and those of you who have done that know what a joy it is. I ended up with a black greasy sludge from my finger tips to my elbows. Regular soap wouldn’t even cut it. I had to wait till I got home to wash my hands with the orange pumice hand cleaner… that was a long drive home.

Anyway, I was able to free up the clog, at least partially. There’s not nearly as much water coming through the wall as there was with the clog, but it does still come through the wall.

So I’ve called my buddy Paul who’s a plumber and asked him how I should proceed. Naturally I knew that the concrete was going to have to come up, but didn’t know how big of a job I was really in for. Plumbing I can do. I can work with copper and plastic PEX (wiki: PEX), but interfacing new PVC with old cast iron is out of my realm.

sledgePaul indicated that any good plumber could do the work, and that he’d done a similar project for a guy a while back and it ended up costing the guy around $500 start to finish, and that included pouring the cement to fill the trench after the new pipe was laid.

So now I have to figure out where I stand. I have to fix the problem, and I’m leaning towards contracting it out. Breaking up 10 feet of concrete with a sledge hammer doesn’t sound like any fun, and may make a case for paying a pro to furnish the back breaking labor.

What do you think? Break my back tearing up the old concrete and learn how to replace the pipe, or just write the check?

In the mean time, I’ve told the tenants that they can use the sink (which drains into the same line) and can even wash their clothes, just expect some water to come in through the foundation when they do. It’s not a big deal, the basement is unfinished and the water will make its way down the floor drain, no problem.

3 Comments

  1. MJ

    A clog, ha, I thought it would be.

    Get a plumber to come over and do an estimate, any one worth his salt will actually know what they are doing. Remember some plumbers know how to pound out the concrete and lay the pipe back in properly, but not all.

    I have had this happen at the plant I work at, one thing that is helpful to install if you do go to the work of tearing up concrete, put in an extra knock out. Or rather another point (like another drain) that you can snake out but you can cap it off until it’s needed. Just a thought.

    Estimate first, if you need to feel more sane about the project get three estimates. Where I live there is a pretty good outfit called Quality Plumbing, don’t know if you want to try them.

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